This is a very interesting debate. While there is much said on both sides of the debate that I do not disagree with I think there is some interesting logical fallacies that keep cropping up in this debate. Furthermore I do agree that we need to stop depending on German theologians to set the terms of the debate. The Church as a people, led by the Holy Spirit are the final authority. Stop using the argument from authority to prove a point. "I am smarter than you therefore I know"
